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no no no he' S DEFINITELY not really fearful in cardassians i'm thinking of an earlier episode i'm PRETTY sure didn't have garak in and tbh when i say fear i mean more like the extremely pretty wide eyed face we see for e.g. when julian meets garak as opposed to actual "i'm scared"? possibly duet i don't know because i'm BAD at episode names and no.s but it was the wide eyed pretty face i LOVE a lot when they were first introed i think?

OOOhhhhhh THAT FACE.

Ahhhh yeah, this is the problem you see. I think Dukat is in Duet maybe, but he’s so far from the point of that episode and serves only as information relay for Sisko (if I remember correctly!) that I didn’t find him notable enough to pay much attention to him. I definitely don’t really remember any of Julian’s reactions (I forgot if he was even there?) to him. All my focus was on Kira that episode though.

BUT YEAH THAT FACE. THE DEER-IN-HEADLIGHTS FACE. IF DEER CAUGHT IN HEADLIGHTS NORMALLY GRIN TOO. DEER-IN-HEADLIGHTS-LOPSIDEDLY-GRINNING FACE.

If my redesigns were how Cardassians looked, I think that face would be his permanent expression. Just his ‘LOOK AT YOU, YOU EXIST, YOU’RE IN PHYSICAL SPACE, OH MY GOSH’ face. Probably followed by the ‘YOU EXIST OH MY GOS- ACTUALLY OH SHIT. YOU’VE GOT A LOT OF SPIKY THINGS, AND I DON’T REALLY KNOW WHAT TO DO.’ face.

Which, I might add, was kind of his expression for the entirety of ‘Move Along Home’.

A serious thing happens and he might be trapped somewhere forever and doesn’t even know where the ‘where’ is and everyone else is kind of panicked and angry, and they’re all in deep trouble?

Bashir’s expression/attitude: WIDE-EYED AMUSEMENT, MELODRAMATIC GESTURES, A FEW PUT-ON SCREAMS FOR GOOD MEASURE. WHAT AN ADVENTURE!

so i'm into s2 of ds9 rewatch now and i'm FASCINATED by the way julian looks at dukat whenever they're on screen together because it's this wonderful mix of FEAR but also like fascination like ??? if i understand U better will i understand garak better?? and i just really love the way dukat and bashir talk into s2 when bashir is less scared of him (and garak) and just the back and forthing and ONE UPPING and basically i just want to read garak's monologues while watching these convos tbh

DO YOU MEAN DURING ‘CARDASSIANS’?

I have BARELY seen Dukat yet. The only major thing of him I’ve seen is ‘Cardassians’, and even then I think that isn’t really an episode about him physically. It’s almost strange, because it’s an episode where Garak simultaneously develops himself, and also introduces Dukat. Dukat says and does reasonably little and doesn’t have much screen time. In comparison, Garak spends a whole episode chasing a trail and helping Julian (and of course the audience) solve a mystery. Though it starts to give Dukat some more development, you could potentially plonk any random cardassian person in his place and it wouldn’t affect the story in terms of all the interactions that happen. 

AND ADMITTEDLY, BECAUSE OF THE INCREASED SCREENTIME AND INTERACTION, I SPENT THAT EPISODE WATCHING GARAK’S REACTIONS TO JULIAN, WHICH WERE LOVELY AND FULL OF LOTS OF SMILES.

I did watch Necessary Evil during my most recent DS9 sleepover though, which isn’t a Dukat episode specifically but I thought it was a very good one for him, because the yucky nuances of his character show through a fair bit. Helped a lot by Odo constantly bowing his head and being very submissive. I had a lot of feels for poor Odo.

BUT BACK ONTO CARDASSIANS WHICH I ASSUME IS THE EPISODE YOU’RE TALKING ABOUT, SINCE I’M CURRENTLY UP TO SANCTUARY AND HAVE SEEN NO MORE.

I did notice Bashir’s little headstrong ‘lemme ask you some questions’ face, though I read it more as him wanting to be a smart arse and seeing if he can prove things because BASHIR IS A SMART ARSE AND SISKO WAS CORRECT FOR TELLING HIM OFF.

I didn’t really read any fear, but maybe because I’m not sure I’ve read fear from Bashir at all yet. Shock, smart-arsery, amusement, smart-arsery, attraction, smart-arsery, arousal, smart-arsery, blustering, smart-arsery, and indignation are the emotions I’ve read from him. I would have described his reaction as a combination of shock, amusement, blustering, and smart-arsery. In various combinations.

Maybe because Dukat hasn’t done anything that endangers Bashir (yet at least, I can’t speak about further) personally. Even though Bashir knows about the occupation, even though Garak has fed him hints about Dukat being pretty horrible, I don’t think Bashir has seen a single demonstration of the danger personally.

Which… sort of leads me to want a terrorised Bashir. Oh dear. Oh dear. This is going to lead me straight into wanting some messed-up Mirror/dodgy-verse AU stuff again isn’t it.

HMM, SORRY I’VE ENDED UP TALKING ABOUT SOMETHING ELSE REALLY. BUT THAT’S BECAUSE I DON’T REALLY HAVE ANY FRAME OF REFERENCE FOR DUKAT YET. BECAUSE OF WHERE I AM IN THE SERIES, HE HASN’T YET LEFT ANY LASTING IMPRESSION ON ME. MAYBE WHEN I’M EVENTUALLY ABLE TO DO A SECOND VIEWING OF THINGS, I’LL PICK UP THINGS THAT I’M NOT PICKING UP RIGHT NOW.

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summerartist replied to your photo “Someone asked recently to see my post with comprehensive information…”

*picturing human Starfleet doctors finding this in their medical texts* Some are terrified. A few are intrigued. Bashir is just too fascinated for his own good.

GARAK PLEASE LET ME LOOK INSIDE YOUR MOUTH.

GARAK PLEASE LET ME SEE YOUR VENOM GLANDS, PLEASE.

GARAK, CAN YOU BITE THIS CLOTH BUNDLE FOR ME, I WANT TO OBSERVE.

GARAK, CAN YOU DRIP SOME VENOM INTO THIS JAR PLEASE.

GARAK ARE YOU ABLE TO SPIT THE VENOM? CAN I MEASURE THE DISTANCE?

GARAK I HAVE BLOOD SAMPLES FROM FIFTY SIX ALIEN RACES, CAN YOU DROOL SOME VENOM INTO THEM?

GARAK I WANT TO TEST THIS ANTI-VENOM, CAN YOU SPIT INTO THIS CONTAINER FOR M-

GARAK CAN WE STILL BE FRIENDS

GARAK I DIDN’T MEAN IT

On the other hand, I can totally imagine Garak doing the softbite thing that dogs and alligators do (some species of alligators will carry their young in their mouths from the nest to water sources) and like…gently holding things in his mouth very delicately.

Spoilers: That’s exactly what this design does. XD 

When kissing and cuddling his dear doctor, Garak basically affectionately mouths at his neck and shoulders (like dogs in play), and vigorous mouthing is the equivalent of snogging.

They have complete control over their jaws - which they generally have to to have evolved and developed language - so they’re more than capable of being extremely gentle. 

summerartist replied to your photo “Someone asked recently to see my post with comprehensive information…”

*picturing human Starfleet doctors finding this in their medical texts* Some are terrified. A few are intrigued. Bashir is just too fascinated for his own good.

GARAK PLEASE LET ME LOOK INSIDE YOUR MOUTH.

GARAK PLEASE LET ME SEE YOUR VENOM GLANDS, PLEASE.

GARAK, CAN YOU BITE THIS CLOTH BUNDLE FOR ME, I WANT TO OBSERVE.

GARAK, CAN YOU DRIP SOME VENOM INTO THIS JAR PLEASE.

GARAK ARE YOU ABLE TO SPIT THE VENOM? CAN I MEASURE THE DISTANCE?

GARAK I HAVE BLOOD SAMPLES FROM FIFTY SIX ALIEN RACES, CAN YOU DROOL SOME VENOM INTO THEM?

GARAK I WANT TO TEST THIS ANTI-VENOM, CAN YOU SPIT INTO THIS CONTAINER FOR M-

GARAK CAN WE STILL BE FRIENDS

GARAK I DIDN’T MEAN IT

Someone asked recently to see my post with comprehensive information about my Cardassian redesign in it. Unfortunately I don’t have one, because although I first started posting the ideas in July, I think I’ve only just started to get a handle on how to draw them.
I would like to build a page for them though, so if anyone wants to use them in art/fics, there’s some easy reference. :D
As a start, here’s a quick-ish diagram of an average Cardassian jaw. Modern Cardassian society eats small meals relatively frequently. Fish, eggs, and seeds are favoured. Neurotoxic venom secreted from the glands in the throat can have a variety of effects on different species, but on Cardassia it is lethal to the native species susceptible to it.
As venom secretion can be completely controlled by most modern Cardassians, it has a large role in military tactics, as an offensive weapon and as a torture device. However, that they even have venom at all is not a well-known fact. A Cardassian who is loyal to the state will only use venom on a victim that they are certain will die from it, or otherwise removed from the picture - because giving an enemy any opportunity to develop an anti-venom is one of the worst possible outcomes.
I could probably talk more but this post is already getting long. XD I hope somebody finds this big disembodied jaw interesting…!

Someone asked recently to see my post with comprehensive information about my Cardassian redesign in it. Unfortunately I don’t have one, because although I first started posting the ideas in July, I think I’ve only just started to get a handle on how to draw them.

I would like to build a page for them though, so if anyone wants to use them in art/fics, there’s some easy reference. :D

As a start, here’s a quick-ish diagram of an average Cardassian jaw. Modern Cardassian society eats small meals relatively frequently. Fish, eggs, and seeds are favoured. Neurotoxic venom secreted from the glands in the throat can have a variety of effects on different species, but on Cardassia it is lethal to the native species susceptible to it.

As venom secretion can be completely controlled by most modern Cardassians, it has a large role in military tactics, as an offensive weapon and as a torture device. However, that they even have venom at all is not a well-known fact. A Cardassian who is loyal to the state will only use venom on a victim that they are certain will die from it, or otherwise removed from the picture - because giving an enemy any opportunity to develop an anti-venom is one of the worst possible outcomes.

I could probably talk more but this post is already getting long. XD I hope somebody finds this big disembodied jaw interesting…!

ladydrace replied to your post “cosmictuesdays replied to your post: I’m back! And I saw Pel, and…”

I thought the prosthetic problems were with the first Moogie, not Pel? Would love to hear a source, though? (Didn’t hear talk of more Pel in the show and this is of great interest to me!)

Looks like there’s some more information about it on Memory Alpha!

Gosh I love Pel. There are parts of the episode I certainly think could have been handled better, though I am willing to overlook a certain amount of mnnnhhhhh because of when it came out, but otherwise I really really liked it. AND REALLY REALLY LIKE PEL.

AND

JUST

PEL <3

The actress did a great job portraying the power and feeling behind the character, especially seeing as she only gets a single episode to basically establish her entire premise and conclude the story in one stroke.

N’awww I loved itttt

cosmictuesdays replied to your post: I’m back! And I saw Pel, and besides s…

Everyone loves Pel! Except the actress apparently had trouble with the prosthetic, so she didn’t come back…except in fic. Of which there isn’t nearly enough. MORE PEL!

Oh that’s such a shame!

Pretty sure I’m going to end up headcanoning that Pel sticks around in some way. Well, maybe. I don’t want her to have a horrible time. If I headcanon that she stays, then I’ll headcanon a different ending to the episode. Otherwise I’ll headcanon that she goes around being an awesome business person away from DS9. Either way, Pel keeps being awesome.

I wish it had been a two-parter, so there was room for Quark to explore how he was obviously getting into his business partner a bit as well. I know I’ll see more of him at least later, and his reactions to relationships and stuff, but for now this is some of my favourite development.

YAY PEL! Totally gonna have to draw her at some point!

I’m back!

And I saw Pel, and besides some unnecessary public humiliation (sigh), I enjoyed that episode a lot more than I thought I would. PEL SHOULD BE A RECURRING CHARACTER. PEL IS REALLY GREAT. ALSO JADZIA WAS WONDERFUL, BEING COMPLETELY ACCEPTING OF ANY RELATIONSHIP DYNAMIC.

Also Odo SOLVING A MYSTERYYYYYY WITH SOME FLASHBACKS TO THE OCCUPATION AND WOW, WHAT A NICELY SHOT EPISODE. All of the shots were composed and lit really nicely. Costuming was on the ball too I think.

AND SOME OTHER EPISODES THAT DIDN’T REALLY IMPRESS ME SO MUCH BUT THAT HAPPENS.

UNRELATED TO THOSE EPISODES, I MAY HAVE DOODLED ASHA THE CARDASSIAN KID A LOT. …LIKE A LOT.